Wednesday, October 29, 2008

good customer service | bad customer service

Over the last 2 weeks, I've seen both and I need to share.

Good customer service
Porter Airlines flew me to Newark and back so that I could go to Rhinebeck. On the trip home, I learned my flight was cancelled when I got to the airport [I gave them my home number as a contact number, otherwise they'd have called my cell and I would have known much earlier]. The problem was an equipment issue and they needed to get a part to rectify it. It was a substantial bump in their schedule, and here's how they handled it.

With very little fuss, they
a) put me up at the [surprisingly lovely] Marriott adjacent to the airport
b) provided dinner and breakfast vouchers
c) when the morning's flight was delayed the next day, provided lunch as well
d) as they gave updates on the delay, they would let us know when the next update would be so we wouldn't just be sitting there, wondering, like the poor folks waiting on the Delta flight at the next gate
e) gave me two credits equalling nearly the entire cost of my flight because of the problems, unasked.

I will fly Porter again, unquestionably. [I haven't even mentioned their deluxe lounge in Toronto where everyone waits for their flights with free wifi, delicious coffee and yummy cookies, plus the fact that they serve small meals, beer and wine, ALL FREE, on almost every flight.]

Bad customer service
Rogers Wireless

I'm just shaking my head at this. I placed the order for the iPhone on the 22nd of October [a week ago]. They didn't mention at the time that I could just go to a store and buy a phone and it would be faster. Sure wish they had. Here, let's use the same list system:

a) first sales rep was rude and cross when I asked why, as a loyal, long-time Rogers customer, that I had to pay more for an iPhone [$249] than a new customer [$199]. No explanation, just curt answers and lots of being bored with me. Transfers me to...
b) second sales rep who was much nicer and, though he didn't tell me about the in-person shopping option [only hardware upgrades can be arranged in store; new purchases must be done online or over the phone, go figger], he was at least nice and gave me a service discount well in excess of the overcharge for the phone. Fair enough.
c) on Monday [the 27th], was told the phones had come in on the 24th and would likely ship that day or the next.
d) on Tuesday [okay, I was eager. sue me], was told it hadn't shipped yet. Maybe tomorrow.
e) today, was told there are NO PHONES and none came in on the 24th. I could cancel my order and go to a store now [NOW they tell me], but must wait until the cancellation goes through. Another 24-72 hours. They can't cancel my order right away. Not even the supervisor I waited an hour to talk to. Dude.
f) finally get transferred to another customer service guy who seems to be intelligent and actually cares about my business. Gives me very complex options designed to make me happy while working around the unbelievably STUPID rules and systems at Rogers. He types a lot of notes into my file. By the way, have been on the phone for 1 hour 52 minutes, mostly on hold.
eta: g) spent an hour at the Rogers shop based on the instructions of guy in step F. Guy in step F has been smoking something and what he tells me will happen at the shop CANNOT happen. Leave without iPhone.
h) Call Rogers again on the way to the Purl and get someone who now says that the reason they can't cancel my original order is because IT'S ALREADY SHIPPED. See item e). I have no idea if she's right this time and likely won't until the damned thing actually shows up.


So what am I frustrated with? Not the people at Rogers so much as the red tape, stupidity and unnecessary complexity of their [not very good] systems. Why should their own employees have to figure out how to bend or break their rules to make their customers happy when they have valid requests?

By contrast, Porter just made it all better before I even asked. That's customer service. Take that, Rogers.

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You should send this column to Rogers. It explains the good customer service vs. bad very, very well. Maybe it would help them get a clue.
 
unfortunately this seems to be the norm 'these days' when I call most 'customer service' lines. Blargh.
 
ok, so I read the bad news first... i'm like that. Good for Porter Airlines -- hopefully this is a new trend?? We can only wish.
 
Porter rocks. I love them. I wish I lived in Toronto, just so I could fly with them more often!
 
I had the same type of experience with Rogers when upgrading my Palm Treo to an iPhone. First, I had to wait until October 23rd to upgrade because my last upgrade was a year ago only (but the upgrade before was five years, but they weren't impressed). Both my husband and my daugther got an iPhone back in July, they switched from Fido and paid $199 each. They charged me $349, less a $50 rebate I have to mail in, so more than them, even though I brought them 2 new customers -- they didn't care. My husband, who is the "never let go" type, tried everything to have my phone changed before October 23rd (one of the reasons I wanted to change was that my Palm Treo had been behaving totally loopy recently), went to every complaint level possible, to no avail.
Rogers have cornered the iPhone market and they know it. I do love my iPhone, and I despise Rogers.
Make sure they give you the right package for your iPhone, especially if you want to check e-mail and the Internet -- it's the Data Service Plan 6GB for $30.00. It's a limited time offer, and it expires soon.
 
i've never been to toronto...looks lie porter airlines is about to start flying there from chicago. maybe now i have good reason to check out toronto! :-)
 
Yyyeeeaaaahhhh...that's pretty much Rogers customer service for you in a nut shell. You'll never get the same answer twice and you have to fight them tooth and nail to get any sort of logical or satisfactory service. They really need more competition...
 
Sounds very much like the conversation I've had with Bell in the last few weeks.
 
Your Rogers ordeal sounds like what I went through with Walgreen's mail order pharmacy, only I ran out of one of my antidepressants because they said to allow two weeks and it took 3 1/2. It was really, really bad. Like crash and burn bad. I will never use them again. Never never never.
 
I think your post neatly sums up why many people in Canada won't deal with Rogers at all.
I hope your perseverance works out!
Lisa in Toronto (pondering an ipod touch using open wifi)
 
I flew Porter from EWR to Toronto in September. LOVE that airline. I'd fly it everywhere if I could!
 
OK, we really need to sit down with some fruity umbrella drinks to commiserate. I can share my tale of DriectTV woe. It's an epidemic.
 
Customer service at most companies, seems to have been renamed "Customer Disservice." I could write a book about our experiences with Comcast's rep (in SRI LANKA!) in regard to switching from regular cable to a bundled service. ARGH.
 
I had a pretty similar experience with Porter... leaving Toronto it was too foggy for them to land on the Island airport and they started shuttling passengers to Pearson (and calling us to inform us of all this so we don't have to wait all night in the airport lounge). Meanwhile, Canada Air canceled all their flights their day-- no shuttle, no vouchers, no food. I think I still have some bottled Porter water around here somewhere.....

My husband aptly put it that Porter is what Jetblue used to be. Hope it doesn't turn out the same way.

We've also had some very similar experiences with Rogers, including moving out of Toronto and having them charge us an $800 cancellation fee (on our $35/month plan). Too bad there's no competition.

Sorry for your troubles-- and, uh, untroubles. All the best.
 
Rogers sounds like Comcast! Customer No-Service.
 
Yeah, Rogers is on most people's hate list. My favourite Rogers experience? - when the lady at Rogers customer service told me the man in the Rogers store lied to me because he was trying to pull a fast one. Gotta love it when the company admits they lied and they screwed you over!!!
 
I fly weekly up and down the east coast of the US. I sooooo wish Porter was an option, it sounds like they made the worst of situations quite lovely. This was not my experience when flying Delta or Southwest. I understand when there are unavoidable delays due to mechanical or other issues, but holding passengers hostage for hours to their gate location to receive updates is cruel and unusual punishment.
 
Seconding your praise of Porter! I flew with them to and from New York (Newark) last year and I love them so much. Didn't have any problems with my flight, but I really enjoyed the service. Not to mention that I could take the Greyhound to Front St. and get the Porter shuttle there instead of taking Niagara Airbus to Pearson or Buffalo.
 
I hope you love your iPhone as much as you dislike Rogers. Maybe as much as you like Porter!

:-)

Customer Service is mostly an oxymoron. Customer Service people are mostly morons.

Just my 2 cents.
 
I feel your pain, Amy. I ordered an iPhone on September 30. I was told that because they are in such demand, it could take 10 days to arrive. At that time I also switched my fiance and I to a family plan, and made arrangements for my BlackBerry data plan to switch over to the iPhone data plan. Two weeks later, no phone. I call and was told that they would be shipping them this week. Apparently they were waiting until they received the non-defective adaptors. Another week goes by. My BlackBerry service is cut off and I'm still without a phone. I call in to inquire. The customer service person was kind enough to see if he could temporarily switch my data service back on, but he could not. I would loose out on the sweet 6GB for $30 deal. He transfers me to shipping to inquire about the status of my order. Hmmm, aparently the first person I spoke to in September didn't even put through the order. What the heck am I supposed to do with an iPhone plan if I don't have a phone? So I march off to the store and I'm up and running with my iPhone in 20 minutes. Sigh . . .
 
I worked in call centres for about 4 years. The reason 95% of all reps sound like they don't care is because they don't. They hate their jobs, they hate getting timed when they go to the bathroom, they hate their stupid quotas, they hate their stupid co-workers, and they hate all the stupid STUPID rules that are in place to make your call as short as possible. The centres get paid by the call, the more you call, the more money they make. You wait an hour for a supervisor because they only hire a few because they cost more per hour.

The Rodgers contract was here in Halifax for years, contracted through a company called Corpra-tel and they are EVIL.

The stories I could tell...
 
Oohhh so glad to hear your Porter experience was as fantastic as I've been lead to believe it is. My next NYC trip will be with Porter, and I'll even consider a special trip to Chicago now that they offer that route. Let sanity reign!
 
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